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ITAF - Italian Fighters => ITALIAN FIGHTERS ROOM ITAF_ => Topic aperto da: Rani - 20 Nov 2007, 17:27:18
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Ciao ragazzi se avete materiale relativo ai seguenti punti, per favore poste qui
Posizione geografica aeroporti Axis -Allied
Numero, modelli di aeroplani Axis -Allied
Numero di squadron (es: 601 sq, Jg27) dei gruppi di volo Axis -Allied coinvolti
Numero e modelli carroarmati Axis -Allied
Il periodo è quello antecedente la seconda battaglia di El Alamein
Vi ringrazio
Ciao Rani
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http://www.romacivica.net/anpiroma/secondaguerra/sgmcampagnaafrica1.htm
prova un pò quà!
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OK Questo indirzzo è un po lungo....ma buono...:
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:6E06WWAp8WwJ:www.esercito.difesa .it/root/storia/memoria_pdf/LA%2520PRESENZA%2520ED%2520IL%2520RUOLO%2520DELLA%25204%255EARMATA%2520IN%2520FRANCIA%2520PRIMA%2520E%2520DOPO%2520L%278%2520SETTEMBRE%255B1%255D.doc+le+forze+schierate+nell%27+operazione+torch&hl=it&ct=clnk&cd=12&gl=it&client=firefox-a
Alcuni li avrai già ma non tutti :) questo e bbono:
http://gonetopcs.org/it/fotografia%20aerea
poi...
http://fc9e9dc1f05ce3c0132bcc03f41d4863.zh.infofx.net/it/1865
http://digilander.libero.it/avantisavoiait/Piaggio%20P108B.htm
http://bunker.altervista.org/wwcacciadeserto.html
http://www.icsm.it/articoli/daicsm/2gm/kasserine.html
http://www.wikipedia.net.pl/it/wiki/Battaglia_di_al_Gazala.html
http://www.arsmilitaris.org/pubblicazioni/Tunisia.pdf
http://www.ilduce.net/tunisia.htm
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battaglia_di_Alam_Halfa
http://digilander.libero.it/secondaguerra/ottobre2.html
http://www.storiain.net/arret/num131/artic1.asp
http://www.soldatinionline.it/leggiarticolo.asp?id=110
http://cronologia.leonardo.it/storia/a1942bb.htm
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Ok incomincio a postare i dati tratti dalle mie ricerche:
I Seguenti dati sono gli ORDINI di Battaglia tratti da fonti ufficiali datati
1 Ottobre 1942
LUFTWAFFE
Luftwaffe FIGHTERS:
HQ JG 27 Turbiya (Kastelli a Creta) Bf 109 F,G
I/JG27 Sicilia Bf 109 F,G
II/JG27 Enroute to Africa Bf 109 F,G
III/JG27 Quotaifiya Bf 109 F,G
I/JG27 Bir el Abd Bf 109 F,G
Jagdkommando Berca, Creta, Tobruk Bf 109 F,G
III/ZG26 e 10/ZG26 Kastelli Ju88
Caccia-bombardieri: I/StG2 , bir el Abd, Bf109 E (Bomber, Jabo)
Ricognizione: 4(H)/12 bir el Abd Bf 109 E,F
Ricognizione lungo raggio:
1(F)/ 121 Fuka-Nord Ju88
2(F)/ 123 Fuka-Nord Ju88
Bombardieri:
Korpskette 10 FIK Castelli HE 111, FI 156
HQ/LG HERAKLION Ju88
I/LG 1 HERAKLION Ju88
II/LG1 HERAKLION Ju88
III/KG77 enroute to Africa Ju88
Bombardieri in picchiata:
HQ Stg3 QUASABA JU87
I/StG3 QUASABA JU87
III/StG3 QUASABA JU87
Idroplani
2/125 Suda Bay Ar 196
REGIA AERONAUTICA
Fonte: libro Solo Coraggio
CACCIA:
8 gr mc200 17 BuAmud
9gr mc202 20 Fuka sud
10gr mc 202 19 Fuka sud
13gr mc200 19 BU Amud
18gr mc200 22 Abu Haggag
23gr mc202 20 Abu Haggag
37 gr sm 82 10 <Fuka
46 cr42 24 BU Amud
47 cr42 23 BU Amud
66 Ca 311 12 Zuara
68 Ca 311 12 Zuara
86 Z1007 8 Barce
95 Z1007 7 Barce
101 cr42 22 Derna
131 sm79silurante 8 derna
133 sm79silurante 8 benghazi k3
145sm82 10 fuka
146 sm8 21 fuka
147sm82 17 fuka
150 mc200 18 benghazi k3
158 cr42 11 abu nimeir
159 cr42 11 abu nimeir
160 cr42 (8 ) g50 (20) sorman
autonomo Z501 (5) e 506 (2) benghasi
WESTERN DESERT AIR FORCE
FIGHTERS
6 e 7 SAAF anti carro Hurric 2d
233 Wing caccia Kittyhawk e Tomhawk
2Sq,4SAAFSq,260Sq,5SAAF Sq, caccia Kittyhawk e Tomhawk
239 Wing,3 RAAF Sq, 112Sq,250 Sq,240Sq caccia Kittyhawk
244 Wing,92Sq,145Sq,601Sq,73Sq Caccia Hurric 2b , Sitfire MKV
57th Fighter Gr,64th,65th,66thSq Caccia P40F (Warhawk)
7SAAFWing, 80Sq,127Sq,335Sq,274 Sq Caccia Hurric 2b
43Wing,1SAAFSq,33Sq,213Sq,238Sq caccia Hurric 2c
40Sq,4Saaf caccia Hurric 2b
BOMBARDIERI
285Wing,60 SAAF SQ Baltimore
3SAAFWing,12Sq,24Sq,21SAAF Boston Baltimore
232 Wing 55Sq,233Sq Baltimore
12Th BomberGrp,81sq,82Sq,83Sq,434Sq B25 Mitchell
205th Bomber B24 Liberator
234Wing e 889FAA Egitto Hurric 2c e BEAUFIGHTER
250Wing,89 Sq Egitto Spitfire e Beaufaighters
252Wig , 46 Sq,417 Sq Egitto Hurric 2b e Spitfire
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link
http://images.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mts.net/~royb/images/PetersAhernCoxHooper.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mts.net/~royb/112_photos_page_3.html&h=525&w=713&sz=40&hl=it&start=10&um=1&tbnid=p43N_1EgJIEe0M:&tbnh=103&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dquasaba%2Bmap%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dit%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:it:official%26sa%3DG
Western Desert Air Force (WDAF)
23 October 1942
Subordinated to 'General Headquarters RAF Middle East' (GHQ RAF Middle East)
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Western Desert Air Force HQ
Desert Air Task Force (USAAF) (administrative control of US attached forces)
South African Air Force (SAAF)
Air Ambulance Squadron
3rd SAAF Bomber Wing
No.12 SAAF Sq (24x Marylands)
No.21 SAAF Sq (24x Baltimores I,II & III)
No.24 SAAF Sq (24x Douglas Boston III)
232th Bomber Wing
No.55 Sq (24x Baltimores I,II & III)
No.223 Sq (24x Baltimores I,II & III)
82nd USAAF Bomber Sq (12x Mitchell B-25C)
83rd USAAF Bomber Sq (12x Mitchell B-25C)
434th USAAF Bomber Sq (12x Mitchell B-25C)
285th Recce Wing
No.40 SAAF Sq (Tactical recon) (18x Hurricane I)
No.60 SAAF Suvey Sq (Photo recon) (8x Marylands and others)
No.1437 Flight Squadron (Strategic recon) (8x Baltimores II)
No.211 Group
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No.7 SAAF Sq (16x Hurricane IID)
No.6 Sq (16x Hurricane IID)
64th USAAF Sq (18x P-40F Warhawks)
65th USSAF Sq (18x P-40F Warhawks)
233th Wing
No.2 Sq SAAF (16x Kittyhawks I, II & III)
No.4 Sq SAAF (16x Kittyhawks I, II & III)
No.5 Sq SAAF (16x Tomahawks)
No.260 Sq (16x Kittyhawks I & IIb)
239th Wing
No.112 Sq (16x Kittyhawk IA)
No.250 Sq (16x Kittyhawk IIA)
No.260 Sq (16x Tomahawks)
66th USSAF Sq (18x P-40F Warhawks)
244th Wing
No.145 Sq (16x Spitfires Vb)
No.601 Sq (16x Spitfires Vb)
No.73 Sq (16x Tomahawks IIb)
No.92 Sq (16x Spitfires Vc)
No.212 Group
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243th Wing
No.1 SAAF Sq (16x Hurricane IIc)
No.33 Sq (16x Hurricane IIc)
No.213 Sq (16x Hurricane IIb)
No.238 Sq (16x Hurricane IIb)
7th SAAF Wing
No.80 Sq (16x Hurricane IIc)
No.127 Sq (16x Hurricane IIb)
No.335 Sq (16x Hurricane IIb)
No.274 Sq (16x Hurricane IIb)
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United States Army, Middle East Air Force (USAMEAF)
23 October 1942
Subordinated to 'United States Army Forces in the Middle East' (USAFIME)
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USAMEAF HQ
9th Bomber Command
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98th Bombardment Group USAAF (Bombing shipping and harbor installations in Libya)
343rd Bombardment Sq (B-24D) (Palestine)
344th Bombardment Sq (B-24D)
345th Bombardment Sq (B-24D)
415th Bombardment Sq (D-24D)
1st Provisional Group USAAF (Middle east, desolved 31 oct, renamed to 376th Bombardment Group USAAF)
512th Bombardment Squadron (B-24)
513th Bombardment Squadron (B-24)
514th Bombardment Squadron (B-24)
515th Bombardment Squadron (B-24)
Middle East Air Service Command
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323rd Service Group (Syria)
Desert Air Task Force
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57th Fighter Group USAAF (All units Detached to RAF)
12th Bombardment Group USAAF (All units but one, Detached to RAF)
81st USAAF Bomber Sq (12x Mitchell B-25C)
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mappa dettagliata Nord africa
http://coleraine-battery.tripod.com/mape1.jpg
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Link:
http://images.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mts.net/~royb/images/gaf1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mts.net/~royb/112_photos_page_3.html&h=252&w=443&sz=11&hl=it&start=39&um=1&tbnid=Ry1zg9jLiudngM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dquasaba%2Bmap%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dit%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:it:official%26sa%3DN
Quantitativi aerei Luftwaffe al 23 Ottobre 42
ZG1 ZerstoreGeschwader (12x Me210A-1 & 1x Bf-110D/E)
8/ZG1 ZerstoreGeschwader (12x Me210A-1 & 1x Bf-110D/E)
8/ZG26 ZerstoreGeschwader (12x Bf-110 various models)
12/LG26 Lehrgeschwader (12x Ju88A-4 Trop.)
(F)/121 Recon (Ju88D-1/C Trop. & D-5 Trop)
(H)/12 Recon (BF110F-3 & BF109E-7 Trop. & F-4/R-3)
(H)/14 Recon (Bf109F-4/R-3) FlFu. Afrika 1st Wustennot (Desert rescue)
27th JagdGeschwader (Group) Stab./JG27 (4x ME109F-4 Trop.)
I/JG27 (Few planes)
II/JG27 (40x ME109F-4 & G-2 Trop.)
III/JG27 (35x ME109F-4 Trop.)
III/JG53 (40x ME109F-4 & G-4 Trop.)
3rd StukaGeschwader (Group)
Stab./StG3 (4x Ju87D-3 & R-4)
I/StG3 (40x Ju87D-3)
II/StG3 (40x Ju87D-1 & D-3 Trop.)
III/StG3 (40x Ju87D-1 & D-3 Trop)
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ecco altri link utili.....speriamo. ......
http://www.ilduce.net/africa.htm
http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/storia/elal_game.asp
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:2_Battle_of_El_Alam ein_001.png
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seconda_battaglia_di_El_Alamein