Topic: About IL2 WAR.

[Rani]

Hi guys.... in those days we are testing new map and developing planeset...we are thinking also to the possibility to insert new skins and choosing other game set..

At moment good guys are developing the SM79...and in a couple of days we hope this job going to end....


We are working to  provide a new interesting version of IL2 war..and we can say that at moment another map is on working... for battle of 1944 

Il2 war coming soon...take the engine hot 

[SFF_Vellu]

Hello!

What is situation about IL2 war? In Finland we wait that the best on line war would continue in the future. I hope that we will see on the Italian sky as soon as possible.

Best recards

SFF_Vellu
Sky Fellows of Finland

[Ybor]

Ciao all friends from Finland....
Like many times we said in HL too, we are near to finish the testing time on next IL2 war BoI,( battle of Italy) we need time, like you can image, to give you all the best we can....
We are waiting 2 new planes too, full new planes, these planes seems to be under test too....
So we have to wait..... 

See you soon in the BoI and HL!!!

Ciao

[Ripley]

Hai capito Ybor come s'è messo a parlà inglese ??
E te devo da dì "bravo" !! 

PS: copio e incollo questo tuo post sulla mail di IL2WAR in risposta a quelli che chiedono che fine ha fatto...

[Ybor]

Hai capito Ybor come s'è messo a parlà inglese ??
E te devo da dì "bravo" !! 

PS: copio e incollo questo tuo post sulla mail di IL2WAR in risposta a quelli che chiedono che fine ha fatto...

 

Grazie Brò... è anche grazie a te che miglioro!!!!!

 

Nun sai come parlo l'arabo!!!!!!
 

[JG300_Shoki]

I have checked last BOB raports and it seem that the main bomber for blue side is Bf-110. Can you change it?

[LG965]

don't is so, the bomber can be choose 

[Red Deadly]

Luigi, non sembra che abbia chiesto se si puo scegliere, ma se si puo cambiare.

Secondo la mia traduzione dice:

Ho controllato l'ultimo (o gli ultimi) report e sembra che il bombardiere principale per la parte blue è il bf-110. Potete cambiarlo?

Shoki, in this message I have translated yours in italian, because it seems it was misunderstood (If I'm not wrong). 

[JG300_Shoki]

Thanks for the answer  . I have not occasion to use generator because we are still waiting for our squadron registration code 

[Ybor]

Il 2 war cooming soon....

In  il 2 war test is not important to enjoy squad; the stats can be turn off and on anytimes by the Admin as he need it. 

Test page was only to test map, generator, planes, videocards, version & mods etc......

It is a mistake some people doesn't understand it, as a mistake is in wich way you got access to host too.  ....ok it was enough the link....!?

Anyway... the demage done...

Regards.... 

[EAF19_Classic]

Is the planeset we are using just for testing? I do hope so...

Before I get flamed for 'whining' about the planeset how about you hear me out and see my reasons for the following suggestions. I am not hear to moan or to gain advantage. In every planeset we should have balance and fair play as the governing factor, the next most important factor is of course historical accuracy.

The first issue that I think needs balancing is the drastically different bombing capabilities of each side.

The SB2-M103 is being used as a stand in Wellington leaving the RAF with Blenheims and 'Wellingtons' to use as bombers. The only trouble with that is that the Blenheim was a RAF light bomber and the Wellington was a RAF medium bomber. The Blenhiem could carry 1000lb (450kg) of bombs and the Wellington could carry 4500lbs (2000kgs) of bombs. The SB2-M103 can only be described as a light bomber, its bombload is only 2200lbs (1000kg) yet its speed is the same as that of the real Wellington. So the use of a medium bomber like the 'Wellington' in this planeset is not worthwhile as it has the major drawback of a medium bomber with the loss of speed but it does not make up for it with an effective payload to attack with. A far more suitable stand in would be the DB3F which closely matches the Wellington in speed and offensive load. The DB3F is actually a little slower than the SB2-M103 but has a more usefull maximum bomb load of 2000kg or 4400lbs which is close to the wellington.

I think introducing the above change would make each sides bombers a much better matched contest and would ultimately lead to a fairer and more balanced fight.

I also note that the planeset makes extensive use of 'Jabo' 109s and 110s on the EBA role. I see and appreciate that you have already made one change to the planeset and that was to remove the 109E from the BA role which it was able to do in the first planeset. But now we still have a situation where the BA type is selectable and every time an attack is planned by blue the escorting fighters will also have the ability to carry bombs, this is very unbalanced. I doubt we will see many He111's or Ju87's when the planner can select the very effective BF110C-4/B or the Ju88 which has the most effective bomb load. In my opinion the best thing to do here would be to remove the E7B and the 110C-4B from the EBA role all together leaving only the 109E4/B and the 109E4 to act as bomber escorts, that would mean that in only 50% of all attack missions could the fighters also carry bombs, that would also match the reds capability as currently we use the Hurricane IIb and the Spitfire which also leaves a 50% chance of the fighters carrying bombs on EBA missions. Perhaps some of the EBA aircraft could become the standard BF110C4 if the blue players want to use the 110 on escort missions, the standard model is fairer but using the BF110C4/B is not so fair because of its offensive bombload.

A fight of 4xHurricane Mk.I(INT) against 4xBF110C4/B(BA) and 4xBF110C4/B(EBA) is a very unbalanced fight.

My final point is why is the 'BA' type selectable by planner? it just means that most bombing missions for Blue will use the excellent BF110C4/B which is completely unfair, a Hurricane cannot even catch the primary blue bomber. So the 110s can dive towards the target drop bombs and then use boom and zoom tactics to knock the fighters out of the sky, its very unfair. My only suggestion here is to remove the planners ability to choose the BA aircraft, instead it should be down to the generator choosing, make it equal percentages for all BA types and let the generator choose.

Well thats my lot, please dont take my words the wrong way I am here to voice my opinions and try to add more balance to the planeset I am keen to hear constructive conversation and views from others on this subject particularly prominent blue flyers such as Rammjager, Cymao, LG965 and Hpt_Kuba what are your thoughts on the current planeset?

To all involved with the creation and administration of IL2 war thankyou, HL is not the same without this war.

[Ybor]

Il2 war BoB is started like u can see!!

Anyway I'm going to join in ts with the admin and speack with him...
I suggest  to explain your point of view BEFORE the Il 2 war is started...
Why so late u discuss about it?

You know us before BoB...So why didn't u contact us before?

You were welcome to make planeset too with us, np!!

So, have fun and thx for ur suggestion.
Regards

[EAF19_Classic]

Thanks for the reply Ybor, I would of posted my idea sooner but I did not know what the planeset was going to be until the map started, only after seeing it could I offer an opinion.

I would happily join you to offer my opinion on future planesets. I have actually made two of the 'bellum' war templates in the past well one actually but it had 3 planesets, I created a Crimea template for EIF war, I had 3 seperate planesets for that map to emulate the three periods of battle in the Crimea, so you see I have a fair amount of experience when we talk about planesets.

I like to start with a historical planeset and then tweak it for balance, sometimes it is even necesary to add aircraft that historically were not present to provide a balanced planeset, ie. early war russian is very hard because so few bombers were available but with the new mods thats no longer an issue and we now have many aircraft types to call upon to create a balanced planeset as you have done in this planeset the allies need another bomber type so the SB2 has been included, the mods have lifted the boundaries of this game.

I would be happy to join you on TS to discuss planesets but I feel my Italian skills would let me down 

In the meantime see you in the skies gentlemen

[EAF19_Classic]

Sorry Ybor, I can see you are on TS but I cannot join you, your server is password protected, no problem perhaps you can suggest my opinions.


EDIT:

How do I PM in these forums ?

[LG965]

Thx for suggestion Classic,
The planeset has been changed, but that's not the first reason to win.
To win, to stay alive, because your dead or destroyed aircraft, cause damage at your takeoff airfield.
I would not like that it will finish always as a dogfight.
As well as in the real life.

Regards